2023-11-08 Conda Community Meeting

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Various parts of the conda community gather on a regular basis. This meeting brings together all of these sub-communities for a community wide call.

Attendees

Name	Initials	Affiliation	GH Username
Dave Clements	DPC	Anaconda	tnabtaf
Jaime Rodríguez-Guerra	JRG	Quansight	jaimergp
Katherine Kinnaman	KK	Anaconda	kathatherine
Marcel Bargull	MB	Bioconda/cf	mbargull
Wolf Vollprecht	WV	prefix.dev	wolfv
Daniel Holth	DH	Anaconda	dholth
Jannis Leidel	JL	Anaconda/cf	jezdez
Ken Odegard	KO	Anaconda	kenodegard

10 people in total

Introductions

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Announcements

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New Agenda Items

• (DPC) Zenodo
  • Want to create a DOI for conda on Zenodo, so the project can be referenced.
  • Bioconda has a real paper, but conda does not.
  • Any reason not to do this?
  • Jannis has created an organization in Zenodo
    • And the latest conda release now has a DOI. Automagically.
  • GitHub repo of conda itself is citeable, as of a year ago or so.
  • Jaime There are two types
    • Project
    • Sub doi's for each release.
  • Take homes
    • Encourage our sub-projects to create them
    • Look into Organization DOI
• (DPC) Time to get off Twitter?
  • Suggest "retiring" the account, which means not closing it, but no longer posting to it,
  • And then pointing to Mastodon.
  • Should we move Mastodon servers? Fosstodon is now invite only.
  • Jannis: Create a LinkedIn group?
  • Twitter has become toxic, and less usable every week.
  • Wolf: why not just post stuff because it's easy?
  • Dave: It reflects badly on us to support this.
  • Wolf: "When Google leaves, we leave" speaking about Prefix.
  • Jannis:
    • Create a ticket, summarize what others are doing, and then nominate a candidate solution.
  • Marcel: Lean towards moving slowly here. Would still makes sense to keep posting to Twitter.
• (DPC) Anything to highlight in November Newsletter?
• (TH) New docs team 🚀
  • Please sign up if interested to help with documentation related efforts: https://github.com/conda/conda-docs/issues/780 (leave a comment on the issue, and I will add you)
  • First project is the revamp of the conda docs with a new theme (demo)
    • Pull request: https://github.com/conda/conda/pull/13298
  • Also the creation and maintenance of a conda-sphinx-theme
• (WV) Ongoing implementation of rattler-build with the new recipe format
  • CEP for (new) keys & values is open for comments: https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/56
  • Jinja function CEP
  • Multi-output CEP
  • Rendered output CEP
  • Tests section CEP https://github.com/conda-incubator/ceps/pull/57
  • Also working towards making builds more reproducible
• (JL) conda 23.10.0 happened! For real this time, in November 😬
  • currently looking good, positive response so far, a few tickets to be fixed in a minor release of conda-libmamba-solver
  • planned to be added in a future miniconda release (no ETA yet IIUC)
  • Issues with redefined defaults & conda-build: https://github.com/conda/conda-libmamba-solver/pull/365
• (JRG) Provenance info in our package metadata (demo).
  • See 'provenance' cell in https://conda-metadata-app.streamlit.app/?q=conda-forge%2Fnoarch%2Fmakim-1.8.3-pyh707e725_0.conda
  • Source at: https://github.com/Quansight-Labs/conda-metadata-app
  • 'Whatprovides' dataset by Daniel: https://conda-whatprovides.fly.dev/metayaml?sql=select+paths.path%2C+paths_entries.*+from+paths+join+paths_to_entries+on+%28paths.id+%3D+path_id%29+join+paths_entries+on+%28entry_id+%3D+paths_entries.id%29+where+path+%3D+%3Apath&path=main%2Flinux-64%2F_ipyw_jlab_nb_ext_conf-0.1.0-py38h06a4308_1.conda
• Time for this meeting? Should we move it earlier in the day?
  • Nothing decided, not even next steps.